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up today senator sherrod brown, big winner for re-election in ohio even though the super pac spent billions of dollars against him. well maybe not billions but millions and millions against him. sherrod brown is going to tell us how he did it. tuesdays, think progress igor volsky from think progress here with us later in this hour. lynn sweet washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times" as a "friend of bill." lots of fun coming up. lots of important stuff to talk about including a bogus proposal by john boehner yesterday. on the fiscal cliff. but first... >> announcer: this is the "full court press." >> on this tuesday other headlines making news, the most eagerly awaited pregnancy in recent times was announced yesterday. duchess kate middleton pregnant with what would be the third in line to the british throne. child of prince william. he and kate have been married for 19 months. kate was admitted to the hospital yesterday suffering from acute morning sickness. she needed extra hydration and nutr
. barnicle. thank you, john. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i think they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house. but, you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. we need to find common ground, and we need to find it quickly. >> good morning. it's monday, december the 3rd here in new york city. the christmas tree all lit up. with us on set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle, pulitzer prize-winnering historian jon meacham, author of "thomas jefferson." "fortune's" assistant managing editor leigh gallagher and political analyst, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele. and i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off today. there's so much to talk about, but we do have to begin with the ties, if we could. it's not just mike. mike's getting all the focus here this morning, and that is inexcusable. >> could i just say, in the words of speaker john boehner, we need to find common ground here, and we need to do it quick. >> there ain't going to be any between these two ties, my man. over
left. i'm still optimistic. i think the president cannot be the one who blinks. he won the election and if we do go over the cliff or whatever we want to call it, the president has the high cards because the bush tax cuts all expire. that would save $1 trillion over ten years. so i think there's more fear and. loathe'ing on the republican side. >> impure thoughts. can the gop push back on the will of the public. >> well, it it depends on how the negotiations play out. what i point out is he gets a lot of attention, but it's simp simply a manifestation of many republican primary voters are and have been regarding tax increases. that, to me, is an important factor. and i think that if this deal or some deal, whether it's an initial deal is going to get done by the end of this year, you need to look at whether the two sides are having talks about who is going to blink first or trying to reach a win-win deal. if they are trying to sell it as a victory, we have a good chance of at least solving the tax issue heading into january. if it's about making the other guy blink or i don't want t
the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when everybody suddenly focused on the fiscal cliff and realized that this was a problem. but since then it's kind of bumped along at this sort of level. i don't think wall street is at all sanguine about the idea that if we went over the fiscal cliff, life would go on as we know it and everything would be fine. >> one of the things that was really interesting to me to bear out that point is ken conrad yesterday who's been so down, i mean, he's leaving the senate. he's done this for seven years. they can't produce deals. and yesterday when i interviewed him, joe, he said i think we're going to make this. i think the boehner offer had significant indicators that something here is going on, and they're going to come together. >> also, kent conrad, a guy -- i've loved him for a long time, deficit hawk. they haven't allowed him to put a budget out for years. he's growing frustrated. i'm sure he's going to be glad to leave. but i was surprised by that as well. you see also, sam stein, republicans are now starting to real
themselves or their elected representatives to stick with traditional marriage. >> we definitely look guard to having a real actual legal marriage. definitely. >> chris and sandy say they have been through this twice now. they married in 2004 when the city and county of san francisco began issuing marriage licenses. but after they exchanged their vows they were notified their marriage had been voided. in 2008 they didn't remarry for fear it would be revoked. they were right. now they wait again. this time with hope. >> today is a great day because we can see the potential for a good outcome, but there is also the possibility of something different happening. we have to congress to temper our hopes and dream a lit -- continue to temper our hopes a little longer. >> reporter: the supreme court justices will likely have a decision by the end of june. allen, keep in mind there are nine justices. they could go in nine different directions. one thing is for sure, this is an historic moment. >> juliette goodrich, thank you so much. the supreme court has also agreed to review the a challenge to the
can get this sorted out, you can really move forward, and therefore, i think now that your elections are out of the way, i'm just speaking as an outsider, now your election is out of the way, there's going to be all this bargaining and positions, but my expectations, i hope, and the desire of the world, is sorted out, and we can move on, and then sort our own problems out. >> for those of us in the united states, we see sort of what seems to be two intractable issues. republicans saying we will not raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. the democrats say we're certainly not going to have cuts that hurt spending cuts that hurt the middle class. and as the proposals go on the table they seem intractable on it. >> they do. but you would expect them, the republicans to be more on the tax side and democrats to be more on the we're not cutting spending side. this is pretty routine type of argument. the question is, you know, are they so far apart they can't bridge the gap? i think they could bridge the gap. you know, there have been proposals put forward on a cross-party basis before that v
chosen to either vote themselves or their elected representatives to stick with traditional marriage. >> we definitely look guard to having a real actual legal marriage. definitely. >> chris and sandy say they have been through this twice now. they married in 2004 when the city and down i have to san francisco began issuing marriage licenses. but after they exchanged their vows they were notified their marriage had been voided. in 2008 they didn't larry for fear it would be revoked. they were right. six months later prop 8 passed. so now they wait again. this time with hope. >> today is a great day because we can see the potential for a really good outcome, but there is also the possibility of something different happening. so, we have to continue to temper our hopes and dreams a little longer. >> reporter: the supreme court will likely hear the arguments in march and have a decision by the end of june. there are nine justices. it is entirely possible they have nine differ opinions. one thing is for sure, this is an historic moment. juliette goodrich, cbs 5. >>> not only will the sup
for years. >> even though democrats won the presidential election? doesn't that change the calculus? >> he would say these people are all safe seats if they don't get against the pledge. norquist has the division so to speak. he could destroy any republican who says the word tax increase. has he said -- he said if they're seduced by democrats in pure thoughts this is the so-called i can smell pornography when i see it. this is pornography for grover norquist. he can smell it when he sees it. he will target. he will destroy republicans who go against the pledge. he's much more powerful than any individual republican. and individual ceo. let's just face it. i've always felt he was the most powerful person in the class of '76 at harvard. enjoyed his success because he was a fellow member of the harvard crimson. i just disagree with him. terrific guy. >> with friends like that -- >> with all due respect to my ex-partner larry kudlow with all due respect. >> the treasury secretary talks about how he does not think that in the end the gop is going to prevent tax rates on the wealthiest from risi
the cliff. that's why the day after the election i tried to speed this process up by making the concession to put revenues on the table. it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> the administration has presented a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues. $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements. $50 billion for a new stimulus and congress would have to give up control over raising the debt limit. republicans have indicated that they want to raise revenue by lowering tax deductions, haven't given any specifics yet. brings us right to white house correspondent brianna keilar. good morning, brianna. >> good morning to you, soledad. yes, things are at an impasse here. i will tell you the white house after not being very happy with the pace of negotiations the week before last sent treasury secretary tim geithner up to the hill to outline this proposal. there's a lot we already knew about that president obama had already taken a public position on. the white house is now saying to republicans as well, we want you to put
an election. the conservatives are likely to take power. and support nuclear power once again. that's likely to cause gridlock in the parliament, send demonstrators in the streets. back to you, charlie and norah. >> lucy craft, thank you. >>> back here in washington there is little movement toward a compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff. there are just 25 days until the deadline. officials are saying the negotiations are now in the had hands of two men, president obama and house speaker eer jo boehner. bill plante is at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. and good morning in the west. the president has stepped up his rhetoric, warning failure to fix the fiscal crisis could sour the christmas season. as another day passed without any real progress, president obama ventured out to push his claim that the middle class will suffer. ♪ you better watch out you better not cry ♪ >> at the national christmas tree lighting, president obama joined the holiday mood. but earlier, visiting a middle class virginia family, he threatened that congress could ruin the christmas season
for the first 99 years of our state and our state constitution, local elected bodies, like city councils and school boards had the authority to raise taxes by a vote of their own council. >> right. >> prop 13 took that away from them and gave it to the people, only to the people. we also think of prop 13 as keeping grandma, grandpa in their home by capping-- >> because local jurisdictions were taxes grandma and grandpa out of their homes. >> that's right. capping at 1% the amount of property tax anyone pays on the assessed value of their home. so there are a lot of different pieces to it. the piece that i picked up is that prop 13 said to pass a special tax for schools, for example-- >> or libraries. >> or libraries or parks, two-thirds is the threshold that voters must support is for it to be enacted. we're suggesting, well, that was 35 years ago. let's revisit it and lower it to 55%. this past november, there were 27 parcel taxes for schools on the ballot. 17 passed, which means 17 got to two-thirds, but 10 did not. of those 10, seven got more than 55%, but failed because the current t
. >> it is interesting. the polling that goes on and the amount of polling used during elections, now it is nonstop. >> it is 24/7. how are people feeling about prop 30, prop 13? there is instant analysis constantly. i think that leads the a little paralysis, don't you think? >> it totally and completely removes the deliberate process in. many cases people are expressing themselvess in the polls and have no idea what they are talking about. they don't know the comprehensive nature, how it affects modesto, versus st. marys. they don't know any of those things. >> and the lobbyists and special interest groups walk in and say state assemblyman, here is a poll of your district and how it is playing. >> i give, i give! >> now we are making a point. >> yes. i want to make sure the member understands i am equal to the lobbyist. >> that is the only poll that matter in the. >> knocking on the door with a lot of cash. [ laughing ] >> sad but true. >>> coming up, one more look at this morning's top stories. >> that include as deadline for the fiscal cliff and compromises from both sides of the aisle. >
a power grabby the newly elected president and a new constitution which they say rolls back the rights of women, religious minorities and others. >>> in washington republicans are split on how to avoid the fiscal cliff. ktvu house smoker john boehner could be facing an uphill battle within his own -- >> reporter: speaker boehner -- certainly talk here that some republicans could revolt if speaker boehner caves to pressure from the white house to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% of americans. and while he's certainly had not agreed to that some are promising to block it. tea party favorite jim says giving into democrats to avoid the fiscal cliff is a temporary solution he's not willing to support. >> republicans should not be conceding the federal government needs more money. >> reporter: we will be hearing from democrats shortly. minority leader nancy pelosi is holding a news conference. we'll have that for you during our next update. reporting live from washington, d.c. alison burns ktvu channel 2 news. >>> a los angeles area fire house is under fire for letting an exdeny letting
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